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ratherastory) wrote2010-12-09 11:38 am
ratherastory) wrote2010-12-09 11:38 am
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ratherastory is difficult and nit-picky
Everyone has their pet peeves, right? I have many.
The latest one to surface, and it's a recurring problem, but it's been twice in a couple of days now, and I'm officially peeved.
Vampires.
Vampires in pre-series stories.
Remember "Dead Man's Blood?" The boys and John are convinced vampires don't exist/are extinct right up until first season.
Even well-written stories get on my nerves, unless they're explicitly stated to be AU.
It's marring my enjoyment of those fics, which is really too bad. I need to learn to overlook it when they're well-written, I guess. But still. Gnarr.
The latest one to surface, and it's a recurring problem, but it's been twice in a couple of days now, and I'm officially peeved.
Vampires.
Vampires in pre-series stories.
Remember "Dead Man's Blood?" The boys and John are convinced vampires don't exist/are extinct right up until first season.
Even well-written stories get on my nerves, unless they're explicitly stated to be AU.
It's marring my enjoyment of those fics, which is really too bad. I need to learn to overlook it when they're well-written, I guess. But still. Gnarr.
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Vampires and DEMONS. Remember how the boys had never really even seen a demon before Phantom traveler?
I feel your pain. Throws me right out.
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Dean: "Vampires. It gets funnier every time I hear it."
The way I figure it, the majority of the hunts were salt 'n' burns, poltergeists, run-of-the-mill spirits. There is ONE canon werewolf hunt, and the boys mention black dogs and skinwalkers early on. A case could be made for wendigos, too, although that one's more iffy.
Vampires and demons? No. Both of those are explicitly pointed out as firsts for the boys in Season 1.
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I think this belongs to you. *pokepoke* ^.^
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Feh.
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I am swamped. Once I get my Novakfest written (before
I am perfectly willing to believe that John tangled with a demon at least once. How else would he have learned exorcisms and that they flinch at the name of God? Or at least he wouldn't have bothered to put it in his journal.
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If you go with the Dracula mythology, then a stake to the heart would immobilize them (a bit like in "Children Shouldn't Play With Dead Things"), and then beheading would kill them off. Still, no canon evidence for that.
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Also, when they know pre-series that it was a demon that killed their mother...or worse than that, know it was the YED/Azazel. Drives me up the wall and I have to stop reading.
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Still doesn't mean the boys would have a cognizant memory of brushing with a demon. And DEFINITELY not vampires.
It's been a while since I read Rising Son - I thought the succubus was A Lilith, like - all succubus are daughters of Lilith? (I suppose in s6 terms she'd be their alpha.) I never got the impression it was LILITH Lilith. Hm. Maybe I'll look at it again...
*digs through bookshelves*
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Novakfest?
Wow. That's like ... a real thing? O.o
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succubus - Similar to a vampire, succubi also known as Lilith and the Lilin (Jewish) and Belili (Sumerian) draw energy from men to sustain themselves.
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Sorry, that's just my pet peeve.
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The cell phone thing is at least canon: Dean has a cell phone of his own when he's around 17, according to "After School Special." No indication that Sam has one, though.
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But also: YES.
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(Asks quietly 'cos I wrote this plot as a 'Winchesters in Sunnydale' story.)
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A case can be made for John lying, but not for the boys encountering vampires at any point before Season 1.
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*runs away and hides*
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But if the Winchesters were in Sunnydale, I think it counts as AU. You're totally off the hook. ;)
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I'm a canon-beast. I avoid pre-series fics like the plague.
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I am picky about my pre-series fic, but there's a lot of really well-written ones out there.
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If the canon-facts are so clear and easy to find out - don't mess with them.
It distracts so much from the story, that I can't enjoy it the same way I would if they would get their facts right.
And it starts with simple facts. I mean, how many times did I read something like "Dean's blue eyes" and just want to shout they are GREEN, damnit!
Or just now I read a little one-shot and it starts with "that's why he went to Harvard"...that's on the other side of the country, damnit.
Sam went to STANFORD! If you use a fact, check it first.
It takes you one look at google or the supernaturalwiki, to get simple stuff like that right, so do your homework.
I mean, I'm not even talking about little details, that you only know if you pay really close attention to every single second in every episode, but the general facts, that everyone knows.
There are other details, that fanfic-writers love to write in their stories, that canon doesn't support at all, that I don't mind, because it's kind of sweet. Like the "Dean always (even as adults) takes the bed closer to the door to put himself between Sam and any danger".
But some others really bug me.
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I don't know if it's my TV/computer, but Dean's eyes seem to me to be... bluish-green, like Sam's, although Sam's are bluer than Dean's. I have the hardest time describing them. I thought the colour was called "hazel," and I used it in fic, but subsequent research has proved me wrong on that count. Turns out "hazel" is something entirely different, and now my own fics make me twitchy when I re-read them. ;)
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For them it's probably normal to have these as little kids already and the idea that it wasn't always like that is something they can't even imagine.
But yes, that's not something that would make sense until the time where Sam was a teenager and Dean almost out of school.
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But blue...yeah, that's the color of their holy tax accountants eyes.
I do admit, that sometimes it's hard to see and lighting, tv-settings, clothes and everything have an influence as well.
With Dean I think it's more obvious. Sam's change color more, so it's not really that clear. But yeah, as far as I know - all the Winchester boys have a certain level of green in there (mixed with blue and/or brown to some degree).
But for sure not as clear blue eyes as Cas has.
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I admit, that for me it sometimes gets even more confusing.
Because thinking back to the time before I was a teenager, I sometimes can't really say, if certain things ...like not every household having a phone (landline I mean, not cellphone)...were that way, because it just wasn't the time for these things yet (technology moves fast) or if it was only this way for us - behind the iron curtain.
Was it an East Germany special or just an 80's thing, you know.
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I love when writers can come up with a different fresher way to describe things.
*ducking because I have used hazel eyes myself*
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Hazel is not that bad (it at least doesn't make me cry WRONG WRONG WRONG, look again!), if used in slow doses (you know these stories where every second sentence starts with the blue eyed boy, the brown eyed boy, the blond one, the dark haired one).
Moderation is the key. If you overuse these things and not just where they really describe something but just to avoid using their names, that's the point where it gets annoying to read.
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My kids have ipods and phones that are computers in the palm of their hands, but will they remember how old they were when they had those for only a few years when the hologram computers come out hovering in the air for them?
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And, honestly, if I have to read one more line about Dean's "jade orbs," I will stab someone with a spork. ;)
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