In which ratherastory is difficult and nit-picky

[ratherastory]

Everyone has their pet peeves, right? I have many.

The latest one to surface, and it's a recurring problem, but it's been twice in a couple of days now, and I'm officially peeved.

Vampires.

Vampires in pre-series stories.

Remember "Dead Man's Blood?" The boys and John are convinced vampires don't exist/are extinct right up until first season.

Even well-written stories get on my nerves, unless they're explicitly stated to be AU.

It's marring my enjoyment of those fics, which is really too bad. I need to learn to overlook it when they're well-written, I guess. But still. Gnarr.

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[tahirire.livejournal.com]

OMG SAAAAAME.

Vampires and DEMONS. Remember how the boys had never really even seen a demon before Phantom traveler?

I feel your pain. Throws me right out.

[ratherastory.livejournal.com]

Yes, demons too! But vampires seem to annoy me more than demons.

Dean: "Vampires. It gets funnier every time I hear it."

The way I figure it, the majority of the hunts were salt 'n' burns, poltergeists, run-of-the-mill spirits. There is ONE canon werewolf hunt, and the boys mention black dogs and skinwalkers early on. A case could be made for wendigos, too, although that one's more iffy.

Vampires and demons? No. Both of those are explicitly pointed out as firsts for the boys in Season 1.

[tahirire.livejournal.com]

Yes, that was one of the problems I had when John's journal was published, but then I remembered that just because the BOYS didn't remember tangling with a demon (when they were what, 4 and 8? 8 and 12?) doesn't mean John never did, so I handwaved that one. But your icon is appropriate sometimes, lol.

I think this belongs to you. *pokepoke* ^.^

[ratherastory.livejournal.com]

LOL

I am swamped. Once I get my Novakfest written (before pyrebi kills me for not finishing her prompt) I will see if plot bunnies come a-bitin'.

I am perfectly willing to believe that John tangled with a demon at least once. How else would he have learned exorcisms and that they flinch at the name of God? Or at least he wouldn't have bothered to put it in his journal.

[tahirire.livejournal.com]

*blink*

Novakfest?

Wow. That's like ... a real thing? O.o

[ratherastory.livejournal.com]

Yup! It's a small Novak-centered fic exchange. It's over at spn_jimmynovak. Posting has already started, I think.

[alexseanchai]

I have about five posts to fanficrants complaining about exactly those. And I could post to canonrants shredding the SPN comics for continuity issues including but not limited to those. (No WAY was Lilith out of hell before 2x22. But she's in the comics. Which are all set preseries.)

[ratherastory.livejournal.com]

Lilith? Before 2.22? Raaaandooom. Also, patently untrue. There is plenty in canon to demonstrate that.

Feh.

[tahirire.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I blinked at the journal when it was published. The comics I always sort of took as canon-lite, but as it has turned out they ended up meshing better than it seemed they would when they first came out. Like I remember being all confused that these strange people were watching Sam, but then - 5.20 happened. So I don't know.

Still doesn't mean the boys would have a cognizant memory of brushing with a demon. And DEFINITELY not vampires.

It's been a while since I read Rising Son - I thought the succubus was A Lilith, like - all succubus are daughters of Lilith? (I suppose in s6 terms she'd be their alpha.) I never got the impression it was LILITH Lilith. Hm. Maybe I'll look at it again...

*digs through bookshelves*

[alexseanchai]

I had not thought of that one. Guess I need to reread too.

[tahirire.livejournal.com]

I did a lot of research on Lilith for a fic way back when, so I may have been explaining it to myself through the definition of succubus. Still, I know those darn comics are around here SOMEWHERE ... *digs through bookshelves*

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succubus - Similar to a vampire, succubi also known as Lilith and the Lilin (Jewish) and Belili (Sumerian) draw energy from men to sustain themselves.