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One day late: 5.16

I was at work last night and didn't get to watch. So now I am, and here's my usual caps-locky, incoherent episode reaction post.

Ooh! The amulet is back in play! Maybe. According to the recap, anyway. It's about freaking time.

Roy and Walt, huh? I really want to know how they got the drop on Sam and Dean and managed to remove the gun from under Dean's pillow without their noticing.

"When I come back, I'm going to be pissed."

Huh. Looks like death no longer frightens the Winchesters at all. I wonder what they'll do when they no longer have archangels ready to bring them back to life with a click of their fingers. :P

Dean waking up in the Impala reminds me a lot of "Dream A Little Dream." Anyone else?

(Hasn't the show already used "Knocking On Heaven's Door" in another episode? I'm almost 100% sure they have)

LITTLE SAMMY!

OH GOD I AM ABOUT TO DIE OF CUTE! DAMN YOU, SHOW, I AM NOT THREE MINUTES IN AND YOU ARE MAKING ME TEAR UP!

Hee! Cas is talking through the Impala's radio. *snort* "Condolences." Oh, Cas.

Go on, Dean. Follow the yellow brick road.

Woah. Sam, that is freaky. You're being groped by an eleven-year-old, for one. Weeeeeeird. Love Dean's smirk.

Oh, Sammy. It's true, though. It's NOT the road to Heaven that's paved with good intentions. "I've done a few things." Nice euphemism. :P

"Sky Mall." *snerk*

"A bucket of extra crispy and Dad passed out on the couch." Oh, boys. *cries* They need a better Thanksgiving than that. Tell me someone has fanficced them having a nice Thanksgiving somewhere? (Actually, I think

sandymg might have. I seem to recall a story floating around last November.

ACK! Cas in the TV! Very Poltergeist. Hee! Dean thinks so too. "Carol Ann." Hee!

"Don't go into the light!" *snerk*

Oh, God, another angel. Must be Thursday. Joshua, huh? Talks To God. Sounds like a phony Native American name.

Cranky!Cas is kind of amusing, actually.

Hah! Dean wants to hit the yellow bricks as well.

Oh, Sam. Please stop looking like a kicked puppy, you're breaking my heart.

"Finding a road in a closet is pretty much the most normal thing to happen to us today." Oy. I don't think so, Dean.

Hey, what's that?

Matchbox cars! Awwww! Woah. Very trippy.

AWWW! DEAN WUVS HUGS!

Oh, no! Not fear bringing in Mom. *stabs self through heart*

Oh, Sammy. You don't get memories of Mommy. She can't see you.

AUGH! *MORE STABBING SELF THROUGH HEART*

Urgh. Sam, you need to be less insightful. Dean really has been cleaning up Dad's messes for a long time.

Aaaaand, trust Sam's happy memory to be a shitty one for Dean. "Stay." Oh, Sam. *cries*

DAMMIT! I wanted to see that famous argument between Sam and John. Poor Dean, but poor freaking Sammy, too.

*dies*

Zachariah is fucking hilarious. "Out-of-the-box thinking." BWAH!

AAAAAASH! *SHRIEKS WITH JOY*

I AM SO FUCKING HAPPY TO SEE YOU AGAIN! Oh, God, and the Roadhouse!

"My congregation's number 1 snake handler." Awesome.

Disneyland without all the anti-Semitism. Genius.

Soulmates. Awwwwkward!

Apparently Ash can heaven-hop. That's pretty freaking cool. Trust him to spend the afterlife drinking with famous people.

"You boys die more than anyone I have ever met." Too true. It's kind of become a joke at this point, much as I love the show otherwise. "Windexed your brain."

Oh, Ellen and Jo. *weeps some more*

No sign of Mary and John. Of course.

Mystery person?

PAMELA!!!!!!!

*jumps for joy*

Pamela is pitching for Michael's team? Oof. Oh, Pamela, I'm so disappointed. I liked you, you were an independent spirit.

Hey, at least she's still watching Sam's ass... and she kisses Dean? WTF?

Shortcut to the garden. Shortcuts are never a good plan.

See? Told you. They ended up back home. I think the shortcut went bad. Oh, CRAP. Definitely bad.

AAAAAAAH! MARY, DON'T SAY THAT! HOLY CRAP WITH THE YELLOW EYES AND BAAAAAD! DEAN, SHE DOESN'T MEAN IT! NO ONE'S LEAVING YOU ON PURPOSE!

Hey, angel goons.

EWWWW! ZACH YOU GET YOUR FILTHY PAWS OFF MARY!

Ah, I see. Sam and Dean screwed up your promotion plan, did they Zach? Yeah, it's personal, I get it. That's 'cause you're pretty pathetic.

"I'm petty. HEE!"

Ooh, mysterious wise old black man. I'm guessing that's Joshua.

"That whole —wrath— thing." Awesome.

So, Deux Ex Machina, eh?

Funny how the Garden looks like the Biodome. Ah, it's the Cleveland Botanical Gardens.

Knew it was Joshua.

GOD'S ON EARTH! Now that's the first piece of good news we've had in two years!

Ooh, official confirmation of the plane, bringing back Castiel and everything! It was God! Woohoo! Although, God, dude, HOW IS THE ANGELS DISOBEYING YOU NOT YOUR PROBLEM?

Oh, Dean. Another deadbeat Dad, indeed. *weeps*

No brain-windexing this time. Figures. It would be a mercy. :(

SAM, HONEY, STOP ASKING PEOPLE IF THEY'RE ALL RIGHT! YOU'LL NEVER LIKE THE ANSWER.

And now they have to break Cas' heart.

Oh. Oh, Cas. I want to hug him so very very hard and never let go.

It's not worthless, Cas. It's worth a lot to Dean.

Please tell me Sam's not the only one who still wants to try, here. Please.

DEAN! WHAT THE FUCK! YOU JUST THREW OUT THE AMULET SAM GAVE YOU HOLY CHRIST WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?

Oh, God. Sammy.

*cries forever*

DAMN YOU, KRIPKE! WHEN THE HELL ARE YOU GOING TO FIX WHAT YOU BROKE?!?!?

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Your comments are like my personal running dialogue watching the show last night. Exactly. We might be one person. Scary. :)

I didn't see the ending. I thought, maybe, Dean wouldn't put the amulet on. Would toss it in his bag. But throwing it away like that? Kill me now.

And really, Kripke -- best start treating them boys right. And fixing fixing fixing.

I did write a Thanksgiving story! (Thanks so much for remembering it!) Called it Happy Thanksgiving, Dean Winchester -- where Dean wants to cook a Thanksgiving turkey in a motel room microwave and Sam has to help him find a better way.

http://sandymg.livejournal.com/8331.html

Hah! I knew you had written a sweet Thanksgiving story. I think that's where I got my cooking!Dean kink from.

I CAN'T BELIEVE DEAN THREW AWAY THE AMULET!

It's basically like throwing away all of Sam's love for him.

Kripke may just as well rip my heart directly out of my ribcage and stomp on it for a while. AUGH!

A) wow, our reactions are kinda similar.
B) Sam totally grabbed the amulet. He will use it to find God and lawyer him into saving the day.

I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MUCH I WANT YOU TO BE RIGHT!

Oh, God, I felt so damned bad for Sammy this episode. Yes, I felt bad for Dean, too, but this only served to highlight how badly Sam is constantly misunderstood by everyone around him.

Dean, honey, NOT EVERYTHING IS ABOUT YOU. Sam's happy memories are about a time when he thought he still had choices, a time when he thought he was in control of his destiny. It wasn't about him being away from you, jackass!

I WANT MY BOYS BACK! *wails*

in order:

the opening, with the hunters? Awesome. Some evil part of me really, really want to see just a teensy bit of winchester revenge. I know they've got bigger problems, but man, I'd love to see the look on those guys' faces!

the fireworks thing I think was the nicest thing I think we've ever seen happen to the boys on screen, even if one was a memory. They really lucked out with that child actor...which is probably why they keep bringing him back, I suppose.

The absence of Mary, John, Ellen, and Jo means that all those nifty little fics about them rebelling against heaven in heaven are still not technically AU, so them being MIA didn't bother me, because I can still imagine them off being awesome
somewhere.

Pamela - that whole thing was weird. I was half convinced she was a fake.

I totally want to see the Winchesters get revenge too. :D

I still can't believe the hunters got the drop on them, though. It has to be angelic intervention.

The fireworks made me WEEP I was so happy.

Mary, John, Ellen and Jo being missing didn't bother me at all either. In fact, I'm really glad they weren't there.

I am convinced Pamela was a fake Zachariah-plant. It was way too weird otherwise.

The problem with this show, just like another one I liked, is that it is often hard to tell if something is just clunky writing or if it's meant to be odd and is thus significant.

This episode had a few moments like that for me. It's one that I think I'll either love or loathe in retrospect once the season is over and I know how it all ends.

Pretty much. I think the Pamela thing was just clunky writing, myself. God knows poor Show has more than its fair share of those moments.

I think I'll always like this episode from a hurty perspective, but damn...

The Winchesters are gonna take death so lightly when it really comes for them. They're not gonna understand. Like, this is why they're not afraid to sacrifice themselves all the time. It's like death is something that happens to other people.

Yeah what episode did they use Knocking on Heaven's Door in? It could be a purposeful callback. And as cute as little Sammy and Dean shooting off fireworks are, it mostly just BROKE MY GODDAMN HEART that this is all Dean wants in life. AND THEN LATER WHEN ALL SAM WANTS IN LIFE IS NO DEAN, APPARENTLY. Excepting that moment when the camera lingered awkwardly on the Winchesters at ~*soulmates*~.

Ash turned heaven into The Matrix, basically. Oh Ash. And Zach is the perfect magnificent bastard, and tossing the amulet is the PERFECT TWIST OF THE KNIFE JFkldjslkfjds.

That was some rough sex, show.

The Winchesters really need to start taking death seriously again. I think even the viewers are starting to get jaded about it. :P

"Knocking on Heaven's Door" is driving me NUTS! I'm going to have to re-watch the series again now. Guh. I KNOW they've already used it, really briefly.

Dean broke my heart, but mostly because he doesn't understand Sam and apparently never has. Sam doesn't want a life without Dean, he wants a life in which his choices, his destiny, is still his own.

I love Ash with so much love and I AM BEYOND HAPPY THAT HE CAME BACK FOR THIS! I also love that he turned Heaven into the Matrix.

I also love to hate Zach. He is a truly magnificent bastard. :D

I AM DEAD AFTER DEAN TOSSED THE AMULET. THROW SAM'S LOVE IN THE GARBAGE, WHY DON'T YOU?

Show has apparently left us rode hard and hung up wet.

Wasn't "Knocking on HEaven's Door" in House of the Holy (2.13)? I'd have to go back and watch to be sure...

And when Dean threw the amulet in the garbage!! I freaking cried. Because he thinks Sam doesn't love him, because the memories where he left were Sam's best memories. Come on, Dean! You have to realize Sam wasn't doing it to get away from you!! SAM STILL LOVES YOU, YOU'RE HIS BROTHER. DON'T THROW THE NECKLACE AWAY! Didn't you see the look on Sams face? No, you were too busy THROWING THE DAMN NECKLACE AWAY.

I think you're right, it was "Houses of the Holy." I wonder if there's a parallel somewhere in there, or if Show just forgot it already used that song. ;)

I want to take Dean and shake him until he sees sense.

*weeps some more*

Dean broke my heart, but mostly because he doesn't understand Sam and apparently never has.
fjkdlsf thissss. There's a lot of talk in fic about Sam and Dean being what each other knows best, but I'm actually kind of pleased with this rift. It feels... realistic? 'Cos it's easier for Dean to just believe that they orbit around each other when they don't. And like, maybe Sam isn't even a planet. Loving each other best/most doesn't always translate to knowing each other best.

Exactly. Dean keeps going on about how well he knows Sam, but he really doesn't. Sam at least doesn't delude himself about knowing his brother.

Especially in Season 4, Dean repeats often how well he knows Sam. "Are you kidding me? What don't I know about that kid?" from 4.01, which, given the demon-blood thing, is really ironic.

Like you said: they love each other best, but love doesn't translate automatically into knowledge and understanding.

*waves* Yeah, I share your flailyness heartbreak. :-(

The hunters at the beginning are Roy and Walt, as in the brothers Disney. ;-) And I think they got the drop on Dean and Sam because Dean or both had been drinking a lot, all the empty bottles and cans laying around. :-(

Not sure I've posted a link to my little Thanksgiving story before, if so, I'm sorry to repeat, but just in case: http://clarity159.livejournal.com/6580.html Hope you like! :-)

btw, I just know that Sam rescued the amulet out of the trash and it will return later, perhaps glowing with purpose at an appropriate God moment. ;-) I also hope Dean can wear it again someday, really believing that Sam loves him and wants him in his life. *nods, sniffles*

Oh, God, DISNEY. I didn't even catch that. Awesome.

DISNEYWORLD.

*dies*

I never noticed the bottles and cans. Sam's sheepish/rueful expression totally got me, though. :D

Thanks for the link to your story! I'll check it out ASAP.

GOD I HOPE SAM RETRIEVED THE AMULET JESUS H. CHRIST! *hyperventilates*

Okay, the first eight minutes of this episode ranks right up there in my five all-time greatest scenes. From the hard-driving "Then" sequence to Dean sleeping -- always perfect, to the tension filled moments of shooting Sam to THIS:

"Go ahead Roy, do it. But I'm gonna warn you. When I come back -- I'm gonna be pissed."

Oh fucking hell. Did you see Dean there? His face, that look, even the damn freckles when he said that -- and we even got a little Texas drawl to creep in when he said, "I'm gonna be pissed --" Man, a pissed Dean is so amazing. . .

And then the fireworks scene -- it's probably my favorite Supernatural scene for me that I've ever watched. It was so beautifully done -- by both Jensen and Colin -- and then how it ended with the interspersing between the gunshots and just -- powerful.

I didn't see Dean throwing the amulet in the trash coming. I actually had my hands up to my face and was yelling, "No," like a schoolgirl when he did it I was that blown away. I'm still not recovered, really. And Cas -- he was only on in bits and pieces but him basically giving up -- really left me floored as well.

No major complaints on this ep. In fact, I've been looking everywhere so I can watch it again. I'm that overcome by what went on. (And I didn't think that could happen after "The Song Remains the Same," or MBV.

*stabbed through heart*

Yeah, I thought "The Song Remains The Same" couldn't be topped in terms of heartbreak, and then Show proved me wrong with MBV, and I though, okay, that's it, it can't get worse.

And then this.

I have a theory about Castiel, actually. Sure, he thinks he's giving up, but I think he's actually growing up.

If you think about how he was before, he was a bit like a baby, at first, entirely dependent on the other angels, then childlike, testing his skills and boundaries and looking up to Dean. Now he's in full-blown adolescence, figuring out that his Father isn't perfect. I'm hoping that we'll see his transition into adulthood before the end of the season.

EZTV has a torrent of the episode, if you're into downloading.

Hey, all theories are plausible in my book, and your Cas theory is as possible as anything else -- I actually really like it. : ) I use the term "Cas giving up" quite loosely -- I could easily substitute it with, "Cas moving on to the next part of his -- walk -- or whatever term it is. But for that moment -- that revelation, so to speak -- he seemed like he had to "give up" that way of looking at God so he could go forward -- like Dean in MBV not "giving up" so much as breaking down so he can see the next -- level, I guess you'd say. . .

(Did I just babble myself into a corner, lol). . .

Thanks for the link. . . : )

You're welcome! And yes, I think we're on the same page thinking that Cas is on a journey.

God, I still tear up every time I think of this episode.

*shakes fist at Kripke*

*cries forever too*

Oh, and bhoney did a whole series of Winchester Thanksgiving over at www.supernaturalville.net

Thanks for the link, I'll be sure to check it out.

I keep tearing up over this damned episode. People are looking at me funny. :P

"My congregation's number 1 snake handler." Awesome." This IS awesome. I can actually SEE Ash doing the snake rapture thing. He's the perfect guy to get them to the garden. Wasn't crazy about Pamela and her schilling for Michael. She didn't strike me as the okay with this kind of heaven type. And Dean's not going for the fake loneliness of this version of the afterlife either. Smart boy. I know Sam's heaven was his good memories and happy times, and he was just doing what was best for him, but his actions hurt Dean badly and I think this was the first time he actually realized how deep a lot of Dean's issues run. And it seems like he wants to make some of it up to him. Atleast I hope so. He picked the amulet up. I refuse to believe anything else. And he's going to give it back to Dean after they stop the apocalypse TOGETHER. Because Kripke HAS to fix this!

Oh, Ash, how I missed him! I can totally see Ash doing the snake rapture thing, too.

I think Pamela was planted by Zachariah. She drank waaaaay too much of the Kool-Aid.

The game was totally rigged. The memories each boy got to share with the other were designed to be pretty damned hurtful: Sam's were about being independent, and Dean's were all about the mother Sam never got to have.

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