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ratherastory ([personal profile] ratherastory) wrote2010-06-10 05:02 am

*snort*

I am *thisclose* to abandoning ff.net entirely. It's one thing to have people tell me I don't know what I'm doing, or to miss the point of a fic. It's another thing entirely to be accused of plagiarism, especially when the person won't even have the decency to leave a reply link.

On the plus side, they accused me of plagiarizing [livejournal.com profile] wave_obscura, or at least of copying her writing style, so I guess I'm in good company.

Still, there is very little that is designed to make me see red that fast.

I'd probably be less cranky if I hadn't had a migraine since yesterday (seriously, I've had more in the past few months than in the last three years combined, it's getting annoying).

[identity profile] annj-g80.livejournal.com 2010-06-10 09:05 am (UTC)(link)
*headdesk*

Demons I get. People are crazy.

I think that puts it in a nutshell.

[identity profile] ratherastory.livejournal.com 2010-06-10 10:09 am (UTC)(link)
That about sums it up, yeah.

[identity profile] chiiyo86.livejournal.com 2010-06-10 09:48 am (UTC)(link)
Ugh. Fanfiction.net, you're being dumb again. *facepalm* Seriously, except that you both write h/c, I think that you and [livejournal.com profile] wave_obscura have very distinct styles, and I'm puzzled that someone could think that you were plagiarizing her. Was it about a specific story?

[identity profile] ratherastory.livejournal.com 2010-06-10 09:53 am (UTC)(link)
Yep, one specific story. Well, at least, the review was for that story, so I'm assuming it is.

*shrug*

I looked at the paragraph she pointed out, and I guess I can sort of see the resemblance. Then again, maybe 100 people have read the story, and she's the first to say anything about it. I don't know if [livejournal.com profile] wave_obscura has read the story, but if she had I'm hoping she'd have said something if she felt her artistic integrity was being violated that way. ;)

[identity profile] sweetsyren.livejournal.com 2010-06-10 10:06 am (UTC)(link)
Some people shouldn't be allowed near the internet should they?

Good grief.

I'm sorry you had to put up with such an arse love.

(I get serious migraines. Are yours focal? What are you on for yours? Because sometimes the medicine can make them worse not better.)

[identity profile] ratherastory.livejournal.com 2010-06-10 10:09 am (UTC)(link)
Enh, it's fanfiction.net. I should be used to the wank by now. I'm just cranky. ;)

I've been getting classic migraines since I was eight years old. Aura followed by blinding pain, and when they're really bad there's puking involved. Good times.

For a while I was on prescription meds, but for me the main trigger is stress, so I can usually get away with Excedrin and a long nap. This is the first time in *years* I've still had the damned migraine after sleeping the whole night. I blame the basement renovations.

[identity profile] sweetsyren.livejournal.com 2010-06-10 10:28 am (UTC)(link)
Well I think you're entitled to be cranky my love. I've not hit on any wank over at FF.net but I imagine that's because my fic is so minimal i'm never on anyones list ;)

Still, I hope they back up and get off their high horse.

Spooky - mine started at eight but I wasn't diagnosed til I was ab out twelve. I get classics too. Generally around four or five times a year. Aura and the pain but instead of the throwing up I get loss of feeling down my left side. Tis less than fun I would agree.

Stupid renovations. But they're over now right??

I took beta blockers for a while but that just made them worse. Steroids weren't going to help because I couldn't predict them. Still can't. It doesn't help that mine tend to hit whilst i'm sleeping and the pain actually wakes me. If I catch them early (rare) then I can manage with Migraleve and sleep and then function like a person. But mine regularly knock me back for three days. First day in agony, second day manageable pain and wooziness, third day exhaustion.

Damn...when you write it all out like that you realise just how much they bloody suck.

I sympathise with you love. I hope you feel better soon!

[identity profile] ratherastory.livejournal.com 2010-06-10 10:32 am (UTC)(link)
*hugs*

Oh, man, the days of three-day migraines are long past me (I hope!). That really sucks, sweetie.

I'm already feeling better now the meds are kicking in. Not great, but I can look at the computer without squinting, so yay!

I was lucky and got dragged to a neurologist at the children's by my parents.

"Do you see coloured lights or spots?"

"Doesn't everybody?"

I still remember that conversation. It never occurred to me that what I was experiencing wasn't normal.

The renovations, alas, are STILL not done.

[identity profile] sweetsyren.livejournal.com 2010-06-10 10:40 am (UTC)(link)
*hugs back*

I wish they'd get behind me! But i'll take them over more frequent occurances.

Good! Yay medicine!

It never occurred to me that what I was experiencing wasn't normal.

Yes exactly. I didn't realise that it was strange until I told my mum and dad about it. But my mum thought I was making it up when I told them I couldn't see their faces (I get white sparkly blotches in the centre of my field of vision. Makes everyone faceless.) and didn't think I needed anything special other than ibuprofen for the pain. Then a nurse caught me in the middle of one at school and had a very stern word with her. Heh. That nurse was awesome.

Oh booo... how much have you to go, love?

[identity profile] ratherastory.livejournal.com 2010-06-10 10:45 am (UTC)(link)
My mother figured out something was wrong when she found me curled in a little ball in a corner of the hallway, clutching my head with both arms and rocking. I have no idea how terrified she was, but I'm guessing it wasn't a fun experience for her.

I get fun technicolour spots and something like the white snow on TV when the channel goes staticky.

The floor guy is coming today, and they should be finishing up the walls tomorrow. After that, the only thing that's left is painting, and then we're done. God.

[identity profile] sweetsyren.livejournal.com 2010-06-10 10:50 am (UTC)(link)
No your mum must have been frightened half to death! I don't know how mum missed it with me. I was pretty good at dealing with the pain quietly though so perhaps I just hid it better. (Messy divorce = kids learn to shut up or get caught in the line of fire.)

Ooh at least you get something pretty to look at! I just get weird no-face monsters. lol Although perhaps that explains my ability to deal with horror movie monsters... *ponders*

Blimey that's taken a while hasn't it? Bless your cottons. You must be relieved it's coming to an end.

[identity profile] ratherastory.livejournal.com 2010-06-10 10:53 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that one was pretty bad. I still remember it now, twenty-three-odd years later.

Man, I'm sorry it took four years for you to get proper treatment. That must have sucked.


And yes, I am SO glad it's coming to an end. Eesh.

[identity profile] sweetsyren.livejournal.com 2010-06-10 11:10 am (UTC)(link)
Nasty business, sweetie.

Pretty sucky years all round to be honest love, but luckily kids are pretty resiliant. I don't even twitch that much anymore ;P

I'm dreading starting proper work on my house. It's going to be a proper nightmare. Especially because the list is so bloody long, you know?

[identity profile] ratherastory.livejournal.com 2010-06-10 11:13 am (UTC)(link)
*squishy hugs all around*

[identity profile] wave-obscura.livejournal.com 2010-06-10 10:15 am (UTC)(link)
I don't even know what story you're talking about and I don't need to-- BITCH PLEASE, I say, BITCH PLEASE. First of all, I'm not even sure how one would go about plagiarizing fanfiction. It's, uh, FANFICTION.

Second, our writing styles are different, THE END. I can declare with total confidence, sight unseen, that you didn't plagiarize me.

I'd be honored if you did, though :P

*insert that Haters to the Left banner here*

[identity profile] ratherastory.livejournal.com 2010-06-10 10:18 am (UTC)(link)
*snerk*

The ONLY consolation I got out of it was that I was accused of plagiarizing someone whose work I like and admire. I think I might have been insulted if it was a bad writer, you know? ;)

I figured you would have said something if you were mortally offended by my prose. I'm just annoyed at this random, quasi-anonymous person taking it upon themselves to accuse me of plagiarism.

*inserts banner*

[identity profile] wave-obscura.livejournal.com 2010-06-10 10:26 am (UTC)(link)
The ONLY consolation I got out of it was that I was accused of plagiarizing someone whose work I like and admire

Awwwwww :D

So I lied, I'm totally dying to know which story it was. The curiosity is KILLING me.

[identity profile] ratherastory.livejournal.com 2010-06-10 10:27 am (UTC)(link)
LOL

It was "Heaven Without You."

[identity profile] wave-obscura.livejournal.com 2010-06-10 10:44 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah... my artistic integrity (assuming I possess any such thing) has SO not been violated.
Edited 2010-06-10 10:44 (UTC)

[identity profile] ratherastory.livejournal.com 2010-06-10 10:46 am (UTC)(link)
Good to know! Thank you for confirming it. :)

[identity profile] faithburke.livejournal.com 2010-06-10 10:29 am (UTC)(link)
Don't abandon ff.net please. Sometimes its the only place that I can read a story because of the vagaries of my work internet connection, but typically I end up (eventually) reviewing on lj if I can because then I don't have to worry about avoiding spoilers.

The problem with ff.net is that some people get an account just so they can leave bad reviews and not have them removed easily. My beta stumbled across this last year when someone left such a thing on one of her stories. And all I could think was, "you have the time and energy to do this? Really?"

In the end, you have to write for yourself.

Now I have to go to work, but hopefully I can come back and review your stuff later.

[identity profile] ratherastory.livejournal.com 2010-06-10 10:34 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not at the point where I'll abandon it just yet, but every comment like that drives me a little closer to the edge.

I just wish people could be grown-ups about this.

Thanks for the good thoughts!

[identity profile] klutzy-girl.livejournal.com 2010-06-10 11:07 am (UTC)(link)
That sucks! I'm sorry it happened to you! But don't give up hope on the site or its users yet!

Speaking off ff.net, about fifteen people alerted the fic I clearly marked complete yesterday. Only two or three reviews. I think they're trying to tell me something, LOL.

[identity profile] ratherastory.livejournal.com 2010-06-10 11:10 am (UTC)(link)
LOL

People do that ALL the time to my fic. Um, hello? People, the reason it's marked "complete" is that I'm not going to write anymore! :P

I've had some people "favourite" ALL my stories in one fell swoop, too. Why not just bookmark the author? It perplexes me.

[identity profile] tifaching.livejournal.com 2010-06-10 11:16 am (UTC)(link)
What is wrong with people? Why can't they just enjoy awesome stories without finding the need to hurl invalid criticism at them? There are a lot of writers in this fandom and occasionally styles or stories or just ideas are going to overlap with no nefarious purpose. They just do.

Just in the last few days I was considering starting to post my fics to ff, but I've heard too many people say too much negative stuff about the readers there.

Sorry this happened to you and I really hope your migraines stop giving you grief soon!

[identity profile] ratherastory.livejournal.com 2010-06-10 11:17 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, they don't call it "The Pit" for nothing, it seems.

Stupid migraines. I think they'll stop when the renovations are done. I hope.

And thanks for the support. :)

[identity profile] werty30.livejournal.com 2010-06-10 11:37 am (UTC)(link)
I don`t even like hurt/comfort all that much, but when it`s your fic, I read it and like it. *shrug* Could be that you have a very recognizable individual style, or I`m a weirdo, either way or both.

I hope you get better soon!

[identity profile] ratherastory.livejournal.com 2010-06-10 11:47 am (UTC)(link)
You know, you're not the first person to tell me that they read my stuff in spite of not really liking h/c very much. It's very flattering, and I'm super pleased it works for you. :)

And we're ALL weirdos in this fandom. Embrace the weird! ;)

[identity profile] saberivojo.livejournal.com 2010-06-10 11:53 am (UTC)(link)
Sorry hon. I don't do ff.net very often. I have an acct though and occasionally think of posting there just to see what would happen. It seems like such a boring venue to me. No pretty LJ pics. I dunno.

I do know that being accused of plagiarizing is not a good thing.

Feel better about the migraine. I get them fairly frequently. Sometimes they are curl up in a ball and die, sometimes just irritating as shit. Feel better soon.

[identity profile] ratherastory.livejournal.com 2010-06-10 11:56 am (UTC)(link)
ff.net is okay, but I prefer LJ for the pretty pictures and the interaction. For one thing, you can't have a conversation there the way you can here. Also, the level of writing there seems particularly abysmal overall.

Thanks! And that sucks that you get migraines too. So many people seem to get them these days. :(

[identity profile] greeneyes-fan.livejournal.com 2010-06-10 12:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Have you ever visited online news sites that allow unfiltered anonymous comments? After a couple hours, it degenerates into the most vile, vicious, nasty, racist, sexist GARBAGE that people would (I hope) never in a million years say in front of anyone who knew them.

Yes, people suck. Consider it a sign of your prominence in ff, that you're attracting the attention of People who Suck.

[identity profile] primrose-1.livejournal.com 2010-06-10 01:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Ha! Ignore them. They clearly don't know what that word means.

[identity profile] scarletsherlock.livejournal.com 2010-06-10 02:19 pm (UTC)(link)
FF.net is a wretched hive of scum and villainy. I gave up on it awhile ago, because it all seems like clueless 14-year-olds. Is there a SPN archive anywhere? Other than LJ, I mean.
Edited 2010-06-10 14:20 (UTC)

[identity profile] le-maistre-e.livejournal.com 2010-06-10 04:21 pm (UTC)(link)
This, especially, the "clueless 14-year-olds" bit. 100% this.

Oh, btw, no clue about the SPN archive. I only like [livejournal.com profile] ratherastory :-)

[identity profile] ficwriter1966.livejournal.com 2010-06-10 02:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm so sorry! I've never posted at ff.net myself, but I hear an awful lot of woe from people who do. That's just...ugh. The Internet at its very finest.

I agree with you and [livejournal.com profile] saberivojo - the pretty layouts and pictures here at LJ are so much more fun than plain ol' text. And if you steer clear of the "general population," by and large it's friendly and polite. Hang out here with us!

Hope the migraines show you some mercy very soon. *hugs*

[identity profile] le-maistre-e.livejournal.com 2010-06-10 04:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Just chiming in here to mention that I agree with [livejournal.com profile] scarletsherlock about the "clueless 14-year-olds". There are two or three fandoms I read on FF (Bones is one), and I have very specific authors I got to. Nine times out of ten, if the summary intrigues me, I read the author profile first. If I see anything that screams, "Hi, my name is Bonnie, B O N ... Hi! My name is Bonnie", then I back away slowly.

[identity profile] ratherastory.livejournal.com 2010-06-10 05:41 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL

Yeah. ff.net isn't called "The Pit" for no reason. I have a couple of authors bookmarked there, and that's it. If I have to see anyone else spell "angel" "angle" I may have to hurt someone.

[identity profile] authoressnebula.livejournal.com 2010-06-10 05:14 pm (UTC)(link)
W.T.F.

Seriously? How do people even...

Arrrrrrrgh. You plagiarized her, all right. Yup. Totally. Can't you see you both used the word "the" and the rest of the English language? So obvious.

>_<

Can I hit them for you? Please? Dear fucking god.

Your fics are some of my favorites: I even have a couple printed off to keep in my Folder O' Fics, in the off-chance that something happens to my net and my bookmarks. I like them that much.

Tell the rest of FF.net to fuck off.

~Nebula

[identity profile] ratherastory.livejournal.com 2010-06-10 05:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes. Shockingly, she and I had two sentences or so in our entire body of fic that were similar in content and structure. So, that totally means I was plagiarizing, apparently.

You may absolutely hit them. I will sit here, popcorn in hand, while you do so.

Your fics are some of my favorites: I even have a couple printed off to keep in my Folder O' Fics, in the off-chance that something happens to my net and my bookmarks. I like them that much.

*blushes madly*

It was, in fact, the fic I wrote for you when you finished your thesis that garnered this somewhat dubious criticism. *snort*

[identity profile] authoressnebula.livejournal.com 2010-06-11 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
I am even MORE enraged at this point because it was my ficcie prezzie that got you handed this stupid sentence by some stupid asshole-

*growls in a Dean-manner*

Swear to god, I'mma take 'em out, Winchester style. Sonuvabitch won't know what hit 'em. ARGH. I feel like a keysmash is in order, but because I don't want your comments to look unpretty, I will hold back.

Not on them, though. Me and my inner Dean are gonna roll. As well as Thumper. They made a beloved, happy, Disney and children's character angry. That's serious stuff right there.

~Nebula

[identity profile] ratherastory.livejournal.com 2010-06-11 03:52 am (UTC)(link)
I LOVE Thumper!

*beams*

*sticks popcorn in the popcorn popper*

You totally made me giggle. :D
bellatemple: (SPN - wide-eyed Bela)

[personal profile] bellatemple 2010-06-10 07:15 pm (UTC)(link)
. . . Wait, what?

[identity profile] ratherastory.livejournal.com 2010-06-10 07:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Pretty much what it says. Apparently my phrases were "ripped right out of" [livejournal.com profile] wave_obscura's fic.

Yeah.

At least it's someone whose writing I like and admire.
bellatemple: (Default)

[personal profile] bellatemple 2010-06-10 07:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Still, that's just ridiculous. Makes me glad I really don't post much over there, anymore.

[identity profile] mimblexwimble.livejournal.com 2010-06-10 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)
*headdesk*

On a related note, you know if you use ** (or dashes) as a break between parts in your story, they've all vanished from the text on ff.net?

[identity profile] ratherastory.livejournal.com 2010-06-10 09:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I discovered that the other day entirely by accident.

Seriously annoying, as ff.net keeps messing up my formatting. Feh.

[identity profile] roque-clasique.livejournal.com 2010-06-11 02:32 am (UTC)(link)
I ditched ff.net a while ago, I felt guilty but I just. couldn't. take it. anymore. I post drive 'verse there and that's about it. People kept bitching at me for swearing. Like, "Dean doesn't swear this much on the show, this isn't canon." To quote Wave, BITCH PLEASE.

[identity profile] ratherastory.livejournal.com 2010-06-11 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
*snort*

No one's criticized me for swearing (and Lord knows, Dean has a mouth like a sewer in my fics), but I've been accused of everything else, from plagiarism to not providing enough h/c in my horror fiction to not "finishing" my one-shots. *eyeroll*

There are days when I can feel my IQ dropping just by opening up the page in my browser. :P