*sadface*

[ratherastory]

I sometimes wonder what show people are watching.

Clearly, it's not the same one I am.

If you need me, I will be over here in my happy bubble that is free of ship wars, character-bashing, and show-bashing in general.

Comments

[hiddenfacade.livejournal.com]

I couldn't agree more.

[icelily01.livejournal.com]

Amen, my friend.

Amen.

[de-nugis.livejournal.com]

Well, it's kind of more an angsty bubble than a happy bubble for me, since it's mostly "OMG you Winchesters and friends all have such horrible things happen to you all the time I want to bring you tea and blankets," but I am all in favor of the non-bashing.

[ratherastory.livejournal.com]

Thank God. I love my corner of fandom. :)

[heartlessbytchh.livejournal.com]

Is this a pg rated thread? Or can I say a few XXX words?

[ratherastory.livejournal.com]

OMG YOUR ICON I CAN'T EVEN!

...

Okay, I'm calm.

CAAAAAS!

...

Apparently I lied. Not calm. YOUR ICON! *dies a bit*


*sigh*

Oh, fandom, why so bashy?

[saberivojo.livejournal.com]

Me too. I get frustrated and worried and scared for and about the boys but I love Show.

Sometimes I think I must be an idiot. Like - Am I so stupid I am missing all the obviously horrible crap that is going on?

*holds my stupid sign gleefully*

[claudiapriscus.livejournal.com]

chocolate?

This is why I love my flist- it's full of people who have interesting things to say about Show, and are aware of and can discuss its flaws, but still love it to little bitty pieces and stay away from the idiotic tendency to take "sides" (seriously? How can you take sides? Especially over things the characters themselves don't feud over).

[ratherastory.livejournal.com]

Angst makes me happy. This probably makes me a bad person.

I don't get the vitriolic hatred toward one brother or the other (the bashing is usually reserved for Sam or Dean, I've pretty much never seen it directed at another character). I really don't.

I understand being angry and upset about what's happening on the show. Lying to your brother? Bad. Selling your soul? Bad. Drinking demon blood? Bad. But they're all human choices, flaws that make up the character and make for compelling stories. I wouldn't be interested in a show in which the main characters were perfect, and as much as I enjoy the MANPAIN (seriously, I really do), I actually like there to be real character flaws in my characters.

[randomfangirl29.livejournal.com]

I agree, I enjoy my non show bashing bubble.

[icelily01.livejournal.com]

I cleaned my flist out a few weeks ago. The Sam bashing was just getting ridiculous. It's such crap. ..... Okay Im just going to stop cuz I'll get all overprotective!Fangirl on your threat here lol

Yesss, Cas. Cas needs to lay some heavenly smackdown on Fandom.

[ratherastory.livejournal.com]

Vent away! That's what I was doing, though less eloquently than you. :)

You've summed up a great deal of how I feel about the Show myself.

[ratherastory.livejournal.com]

Hee! I cleaned out a couple of people too (but then someone linked to one of them today and I stupidly clicked and this post was the result).

I'm thinking of cleaning out a couple more, which is SAD because I really like their fic, but I can't take the Sam-bashing anymore. My flist seems to consist either of bi-bro gals like myself, Cas!girls, Sam!girls and not a few Extreme Dean!girls, which I find bizarre. Like, how did I end up with so many people on the extreme end of the Dean scale but not the others? Perplexing.

From the tone of some of the entries I've seen, too, these people have been unhappy with the Show for years. Why are they still watching?

[tahirire.livejournal.com]

I've been singing that particular song for ... oh, 3 years now? I cut my flist by maybe half last season, and I'm not afraid to whip back out the chainsaw if I have to.

I'll admit to being super sad over the way things have been going but just ... only because of how things are going. You know? I don't understand when people don't get that the characters are just reacting to their circumstances. Seriously.

[ratherastory.livejournal.com]

Nothing PG here. Cuss all you like. :)

[ratherastory.livejournal.com]

Horrible crap in the show? Or in fandom? I don't see it in the show either, and maybe you just lucked out on your flist. :)

[emmram.livejournal.com]

No bashing - all love, and angst. Lots and lots of angst. Yay!

And I totally agree with what you said there about flaws. I understand not being happy with certain aspects - sometimes Show really drives me up the wall, too - but show/character bashing? No.

[ratherastory.livejournal.com]

Chocolate sounds good at this point.

I am always happy to read a good meta on Show and its flaws, but some people's view of it is so damned skewed I am convinced they're watching a show that's been edited differently than the one I've been watching.

[icelily01.livejournal.com]

The concept of Dean girls and Sam girls eludes me. Even after having watched this show from the jump, I don't understand.

Maybe it's just me but, I completely believe that Dean would not be Dean if Sam was not everything that he is and has been. And the same goes for Sam. You can't be like YAY DEAN, SCREW SAM!! Because...Dean is who is..because of Sam. Even if you don't like what Sam is doing this season (or any season for that matter..)

I am squarely in the middle. I love and accept both boys for who they are and what they are....and what they are not. I think Fandom would be such a happier place if everyone was just in the middle like that..

So high five for being a WINCEHSTER!girl. No, you know what, screw that. High five for being a Supernatural!Girl.

[ratherastory.livejournal.com]

We should totally make our bubbles intersect!

[randomfangirl29.livejournal.com]

Yes, we should do that!

[wave-obscura.livejournal.com]

I grumbled a bit yesterday about brotherlove and Dean's, ahem, outburst, but you know I always LOVE LOVE LOVE Show AND Sam AND Dean, right?

[saberivojo.livejournal.com]

Oh no...there is horrible crap in fandom everywhere, my flist too, it's just I don't know why it has to be. I get angry at the boys. I sometimes want to slug one or the other (right now Sam makes me want to clean his clock). But I'm not angry at SHOW.

Every Friday I settle myself in front of the TV with happiness and expectation. I love it! Sam and Dean make me crazy sometimes but not Supernatural.

That's what I mean by my stupidity. Am I just too damn dumb to see all of the things that drives fandom apeshit? If that is the case, I will take my stupid self any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

[ratherastory.livejournal.com]

I'm going to have to cut some more people, I think. It's sad, but their posts depress me to no end. I like their fic in some cases, but I don't think it's enough when they state outright that Sam is an evil [insert multiple expletives here] who makes a martyr out of Dean, and that Dean (and this is almost a quote) always bends over and grabs his ankles for him. Holy crap, dude. Where do they see this stuff? I am watching the same show, or at least I think I am, and I think they must be smoking some really wacky stuff.

The characters are human. They have major character flaws. It's what makes them interesting, creates tension and conflict, and makes for compelling stories. That they react to their circumstances in imperfect ways is desirable for a good story!

Meh.

Luckily, it's only a few. I don't appear to have attracted any of the Dean-haters, and there are only a few Sam-haters left that I can see. So I'll just be removing them shortly.

Even is Sam 'n' Dean is the most twisted-up, unhealthy thing ever, this is the truth about Show: there is no Sam without Dean, and there is no Dean without Sam.

[shadowsunrising.livejournal.com]

*pokes head out of own bubble to offer mutal thoughts and brownies*