Another thought that's not an insta-reaction

[ratherastory]

Behind a cut, because of spoilers.

Am I the only one who's having issues with Show's humour, lately?

Potty humour aside, I am getting increasingly squicked by the rape jokes. Is it me, or are they getting more... explicit? I mean, there was the "rode hard and put up wet" from earlier seasons, but this last episode just made me wince and CRINGE.

Comments

[seramercury.livejournal.com]

No, you weren't the only one, bb! XD

[alexseanchai]

Wait, 'rode hard and put away wet' is a rape joke? I thought it was a horse metaphor. Or possibly a horse saddle metaphor.

[ratherastory.livejournal.com]

Well, it's more of an anal sex joke. But yeah.

[alexseanchai]

Ah. *educated*

[cordelia-gray.livejournal.com]

There have been A LOT of rape jokes this season, almost all of them made by, or at the expense of, Dean. IDK, it does squick me quite a bit.

[ratherastory.livejournal.com]

Seriously, I am WAY uncomfortable. WTF, Sera? She was the one who went ON and ON about the whole consent issue with Ruby. How does she not see this?

[twirlycurls.livejournal.com]

Definitely not the only one. This entire ep felt like an endless rape joke to me, with 12-year-old boner humor and some gay panic tossed in for spice. Ugh.

[ratherastory.livejournal.com]

Okay, not just me.

I mean, there was plenty of squee and flail, too, put I was really uncomfortable with all those jokes. COME ON.

[tifaching.livejournal.com]

Not even close to being alone on this one. Totally squicked by the rape "humor".

[scarletsherlock.livejournal.com]

THANK YOU. I'm getting really tired of it. Not to mention Meg bound up naked and presumably sexually tortured on a table and shown to enjoy it. Yeah she's a demon, but seriously?

[ratherastory.livejournal.com]

I didn't think she was enjoying it. I just assumed it was some weird form of demonic bravado.

Still, could have done without the whole scene, myself. It felt really gratuitous.

[de-nugis.livejournal.com]

You are not remotely alone. Some of it is disturbing -- the rape humor -- some of it is just leaden and puerile, like the potty humor and Cas's boner (though Cas's "has she done something wrong?" comment was also squicky in a beyond unfunny way).

And the naked with leather straps Meg scene was pretty inexcusable.

[silverblaze85.livejournal.com]

Me as well. I thought it was about horses. O.o

[claudiapriscus.livejournal.com]

Considering my grandmother used to say it, I'm guessing its roots are the horse thing. :-p. Or so I hope.

[claudiapriscus.livejournal.com]

I was very much in the same place- the episode had a lot going for it, technically speaking. But I found it really difficult to enjoy it considering the excessive, blatant misogyny. I mean, torture porn scene. And as far as I can tell, they were implying Meg was actually raped (with the knife). And then joking about raping her before killing her? How am I supposed to ignore that?

There are shows that deal with more misogyny than that, but they're structured in such a way that they're not rooting for it. It actually made me feel sick.

To say nothing of the whole meatsuit issue.

[ramblin_rosie]

Drive-by confirmation: If a horse is ridden hard, to the point that sweat builds up in a lather on its skin, and is then put directly into a stable without receiving a rub-down to dry it off, it will get sick. So saying to someone "You look like you've been rode hard and put away wet" means "You look terrible."
[/Texas pedantry]

[ratherastory.livejournal.com]

Originally a horse thing, but lately I've only ever heard it in a sexual context...

[ratherastory.livejournal.com]

Oh, dude, I missed the implication of the rape thing before killing Meg. I erred on the side of optimism and assumed it would be consensual. :(

Colour me even more unimpressed.

[claudiapriscus.livejournal.com]

I'm just shocked. How did that get out of the writer's room without someone saying, "hey, let's step back and take another look at this"?

How did it pass the network?

I actually feel like writing the FCC, which is bizarre.

[ratherastory.livejournal.com]

Heh. The non-horse person here has mostly heard it in a sexual context. Good to know it has more innocent roots than that.

[cordelia-gray.livejournal.com]

It kind of makes me think she DOES read a lot of fanfic, because Dean being the victim of sexually uncomfortable/dubiously consensual/outright rapey situations has been a staple of fanfic for a long time. It's just not one of those fandom tropes I was ever hoping would become canon, you know?

[ramblin_rosie]

Shoot, from what I've read about the ep, it's not surprising you'd make that connection in that context. Glad I decided not to watch. :P

[cordelia-gray.livejournal.com]

I guess I took that more as a reference to the kissing scene, which Meg seemed quite enthused about - I'm hoping that the writers just missed the rapey implications of that, rather than actually meaning them to be there. Yikes.

[ratherastory.livejournal.com]

Well, apart from the sketchy humour, I really enjoyed the episode. It had a lot going for it. It would have been truly epic if not for the bad "jokes."

[claudiapriscus.livejournal.com]

Maybe my brain just went there because of the obvious antagonism, or the implied torture-rape, or all the other rape jokes, but yeah. In the off chance it wasn't intentional, someone still should have said something.